Mad Sweeney

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  Was The Internet The Clincher For You To Mentally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  i think it was for me.. i knew a lot of the history of the bible students, russell, rutherford and the "old light".

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  once i could see all of the overwhelming evidence right in front of my eyes, there was no ignoring the reality..

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  Mad Sweeney

  I got all my evidence via the Internet except for Combatting Cult Mind Control, which I got from the library.
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  Mickey Mouse thinks religious belief is.............

  by wobble in

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  mickey mouse, our very own treasured poster, not the cartoon character, thinks that religious belief is both rational and intelligent.. do you ?.

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  Mad Sweeney

  There is a teapot orbiting the sun, just like the planets do.
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  Costs of Circuit Assembley

  by Gorbatchov in

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  recent we had a circuit assembley.

  we used the jw assembley facility.

  it's (the building) totaly payed off without any mortage.

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  Mad Sweeney

  I like that in some countries religions have to report income. Wish they had to in the USA.
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  Family Worship Night percentages

  by JRK in

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  i am curious how many families actually do this, and how many lie and say they do.

  i would guess it is less than 50%.

  i would say it is a good night for tv.. jk.

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  Mad Sweeney

  I did it. It helped get my wife and daughter OUT of the Borg.
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  The 50 Most Brilliant Atheists Of All Time

  by Bangalore in

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  the 50 most brilliant atheists of all time.. http://brainz.org/50-most-brilliant-atheists-all-time/.

  bangalore.

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  Mad Sweeney

  I would add Ruben Ortiz and Tim Kilgore and Bohm to the list. (apologies to our other JWN non-believers but I just can't list everyone, can I?)

  Also, Mark Zuckerberg? Really? Dude simply got lucky with Facebook. Right place, right time.
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  Costs of Circuit Assembley

  by Gorbatchov in

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  recent we had a circuit assembley.

  we used the jw assembley facility.

  it's (the building) totaly payed off without any mortage.

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  Mad Sweeney

  I would be intrigued to know if there is any evidence of assembly halls being used as a scam.

  What kind of evidence are you looking for? There have been several posters who used to work in accounts explaining the scam. The "expenses" are NOT expenses. The Borg estimates how many people are going to attend (say 2000) and 'estimates expenses' on a per-attendee basis (say, $5 per attendee per day).

  That's $20,000 for a 2-day assembly. Actual expenses *might* be 10% of that on the high end. (remember, there are no salaries, no taxes, no mortgage - only water and electricity).

  They're vacant a couple weekends a year, so say $20K x 50 weekends and you've got a million dollars a year gross and maybe $900K net.

  There is no way this is NOT a scam.

  That said, there is no evidence in writing that any known apostate has made available to the public. It is all word of mouth stuff. But sitting there at the assembly and listening to the "accounts report" it should be obvious what they're doing. There is just NO WAY their costs are as high as they claim. And like I said, there have been posters here who confirmed it with their own personal eyewitness accounts.
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  Mickey Mouse thinks religious belief is.............

  by wobble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mickey mouse, our very own treasured poster, not the cartoon character, thinks that religious belief is both rational and intelligent.. do you ?.

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  Mad Sweeney

  I posted the above before reading page 2 of this thread. So I missed Tec's claim that there is evidence for God as well as xchange's excellent information about what qualifies as evidence and what does NOT.

  So that said, if you have evidence for god, bring it. What is the evidence for god's existence?
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  Mickey Mouse thinks religious belief is.............

  by wobble in

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  2. bible

  mickey mouse, our very own treasured poster, not the cartoon character, thinks that religious belief is both rational and intelligent.. do you ?.

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  Mad Sweeney

  It isn't the religious believer that is irrational, it is believing in things with a dearth of evidence. A person can be rational most of the time and still commit irrational acts. People aren't robots with binary (1=rational, 0=irrational) programming.

  People, ALL people, are sometimes rational and sometimes irrational. Some people are irrational in many areas and rational only in a few. Others are rational most of the time and only succumb to irrational thoughts and behaviors on the rare occasion.

  Why then, are religious believers often classified as irrational? Because they are quite often of the former group. In addition to believing the universe began with a singular intelligent act, they also often believe dozens of other things that are irrational: there are invisible beings all over the place, there is an invisible being alive right now who was a visible man a couple thousand years ago, that same invisible being has the ability to save your eternal soul, everyone has an eternal soul that lives after you die, sometimes these souls get to go to a place called heaven where you can be with the invisible being that started the universe, sometimes these souls stay on earth and play grab-ass with Jay, Grant, Amy, and Kris on the SciFi channel, sometimes these souls go to a bad place where they suffer, around 4000 years ago the entire earth was covered with water for more than a year and the only way humanity and animals survived was because a guy built a big wooden box for every type of animal to fit into, there was once a battle of bronze-age tribesmen in which one tribal leader asked for daylight savings and the invisible being that began the universe held the sun in place for him, a donkey once spoke to its master, around 2000 years ago a virgin had a baby, need I go on?
  
  Why do non-believers sometimes consider believers irrational? In light of the evidence, it seems it would take a great deal of restraint NOT to.
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  I can't bring myself to say the phrase "the Truth" anymore....

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  i used to be able to say the term "the truth" with no issue.

  that was whether i was speaking to jw's or not.

  now all i can say is the "witnesses"(catching myself before saying 'witlesses').

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  Mad Sweeney

  I'm with Farkel on this, Cedars. Every time you speak a loaded word or phrase you reinforce the cult mind control and cult personality. Maybe not your own - if you are very strong and very OUT mentally - but certainly that of the current believers. It is the least you can do for them to not reinforce the mind control if you can help it.
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  A Question for those who have trust in the Bible/Jesus..

  by The Quiet One in

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  Mad Sweeney

  Point one: The Bible has a significant amount of false, incorrect, or non-factual information in it.

  Point two: The Bible is credited as the primary (perhaps only) authoritative resource of information about Jesus Christ.

  Stunning conclusion: at least a billion people believe what the Bible says about Jesus Christ, many of them taking it all as literally true.